when doing online banking. I complained and demanded my £70 back from my failed Sure Signal, now irreplaceable. The other thing..! And I don't think MMS gets counted as data as it is charged seperately on your account. Sometimes it’ll use wifi calling in my bathroom, but sometimes that’ll still use the regular mobile network. When communicating with non Signal users, it will send a regular SMS. I’m with EE sim only deal, bought my iPhone 11 from Currys, WiFi calling and SMS works fine which suggests you don’t need to buy the phone from EE. It doesn't work with some routers. Especially when every other major network supports it. @Leex. Apple does not allow other apps to replace the default SMS/messaging app. We also find it a bit tedious that you have to go into your account and manually turn on WiFi … Does Wi-Fi SMS cost extra? 3 and Vodafone don’t seem to be to interested in getting 4g voice working, 3 still only works on 4g800 so your phone has to drop to 3g for voice call, vodafone only seem to allow limited set of devices to work, my razer phone 2 says its registered on 4g voice but it won’t use it drops to 3g for voice, O2 unsure (I just know PAYG is blocked from 4g voice call use), Networks in the uk need to get this sorted out as 3g will be stopping at some point in the future and only ee has full 4g voice support (works on all 4g bands stays on 4g when in call). That format just doesn't exist in wifi. Never have, never will. It uses data not the voice network. You’re right, WiFi calling will work on an iPhone for any of the four Mobile Operators regardless of where U buy it from & VoLTE, Including Three. Three does have 4G Voice / VoLTE over their 800mhz band. View solution in original post 0 Likes 2 Replies IIRC this is all configurable by the network operator. @Leex. There's a bunch of other options if you lookup sms web apis. There could be quite a few appearing on ebay and they are effectively worthless. Vodafone don’t allow WiFi calling on PAYG either. Plus must have a phone directly from them. I won’t now I know that otherwise I’ll not be able to get into my banking website, HMRC etc etc. I have a Pixel 3 which seemed to be one of the very first phones to offer wifi calling without being 3 branded. Are Vodafone in breach of their contract by not providing SMS on Wifi calling? As Android has multiple manufacturers there’s different things to consider, making it a little more complex, unless it’s a Google Pixel as that’s pure Android with no modifications. Wednesday, July 1st, 2020 (12:01 am) - Score 20,212. Also eSIM in Vodafone is available only for Apple watch at the moment. Wifi Calling/SMS Not Working Over Wifi on T-Mobile Device OnePlus6 Software Version O2 Stable 180607 Probablility of occurance 5_100% Topic Wi-Fi Photos Carrier/Network T-Mobile: Actual behavior Mobile network still seems to be necessary for wifi calling. For the Android specific lib checkout https://www.twilio.com/docs/api/client/android, Click here to upload your image Some of my relatives are on 3 and can’t get wifi calling since they discontinued the 3inTouch app, they’re not super tech savvy so I don’t know if their OS version is too old or what – some don’t even know the model, just the manufacturer, and “it’s a Motorola” doesn’t help at all. Unfortunately it was a massive disappointment. Remember, this only started AFTER the upgrade to Android 10 and worked just fine with 9. Your email address will not be published. Unfortunately Vodafone decided to stop selling Sure Signal on 30th April 2020 and instead promoted use of a similar service called Wi-Fi Calling (VoWiFi), which has been available for several years and enables consumers to harness their home WiFi connection in order to make calls. However, there’s a huge trade-off roaming with Vodafone that tech support admitted to me when I asked them to confirm: whilst customers are overseas on a foreign operator’s network, Vodafone keeps your device on a UK IP address, making it challenging to access some local content. I can certainly say that’s the case for Vodafone, O2 and EE on supported iPhones. When communicating with other Signal users, it will send the message over the Internet. It may be where i live,(west midlands) but as soon as i go down to one bar signal on three,wifi calling just works automaticly. This allows you to bypass expensive cell phone plans. https://www.twilio.com/ gives you a simple api to send sms/mms and more. Right now it just fails over wifi. Wonder if this means Virgin customers will lose this when they transfer from EE to Voda laster this year. The WiFi Calling dropped out every day for months, often I could not get it working again. Downloads: 50 000 000 000 + Customers rating: (4.4 / 5) YAATA. If your primary interest in WiFi calling is to make and take phone calls over WiFi, then O2 are a perfectly good choice. Coincidence? Have a pixel 2xl on TMobile. Vodafone say its my Internet provider and BT cant fault it after having numerous techs out to the house! To phone EE: Dial Freephone +44 800 079 8586 - Option 1 for Mobiles; Option 2 for 4G WiFi… Good to talk about these things! Some time ago I was having problems connection a web site which I had previously visited for years. (max 2 MiB). I changed the dns on my desktop and have never had an issue since. From recent reports, Vodafone won’t enable them even if someone buys one to replace an existing one that’s broken, and if a customer disconnects one for a few months they will disable the service and refuse to re-enable it. I pay £5 a month SIM only to iD, which is an EE MVNO. Three UK and EE), although Vodafone still hasn’t added this feature and that’s despite saying in 2018 it would be coming “soon” (they repeated this again last year too). Does it not work on just your wifi or Any wifi ? i was hoping that o2 wifi calling and SMS would replace the TU go app all together. No. But if pay monthly is the ‘better’ are the higher paying customers better then the lower paying?! I don’t really agree, give VoLTE to the better customers. I have always bought my iPhones independently of the mobile network and they’ve always had Wi-Fi calling functionality working without any issues provided there’s a good internet connection. My work area is such that it gets no cellular signal at all and I can only send or receive messages via WiFi. The latter still doesn’t support the ability to send and receive text (SMS) messages (it’s been listed as coming “soon” since 2018). They’re the only ones with their ducks in a row. It’s frustrating because the main reason I wanted wifi calling was to see an increase in battery life, but it’s not actually using the mobile signal any less. They have me trapped for 21 months with no SMS at home, which means that I dont get the security codes from bank etc. o2 are using just calling at present and making sure it's right, but you can use Wifi calling when overseas. I am positive that EE do and I think last I tested Three UK also did this, O2 and Vodafone do not currently support this. +2, your device does NOT do this through the data connection, so even though you might have mobile data turned off, or in this case, connected to wifi. Unfortunately it still uses the mobile network 99% of the time unless I force it with aeroplane mode to get better voice quality and battery life. SMS messages are special messages that go over the dead space in the cellular communications protocol. (I haven't tried disabling wifi calling itself yet). Mobile operator Vodafone’s recent decision to stop selling their femtocell based Sure Signal 3G router on 30th April 2020, while instead encouraging use of Wi-Fi Calling, has one significant flaw. In fairness we know that adding SMS to WiFi Calling is very complex to implement and requires a lot of testing, which might help to explain why Vodafone have been slow to implement it. Sure Signal (v3) is a small device that plugs into a fixed line broadband ISP network (minimum connection speed required is 1Mbps), which enables it to harness your home internet connection in order to boost an indoor 3G mobile signal using the 2100MHz band. Vodafone don't at present, but allow Wifi calling when over seas . Have you tried changing the DNS Servers on your phone? No. It’s also disappointing that Vodafone restricts VoLTE & VoWiFi to contract customers. You can do so without a cellular connection, so even if your phone is not able to make regular calls, you can WiFi call/text as long as you have the internet. For a start – SMS stands for short messaging service, a protocol used for sending short messages over wireless networks. They have it for PAYG customers too now? Ged , go to Vodafone and make a complaint that SMS does not work with VoWiFi , I just did , Thread reply - more options. I would like to give more details on my reasons to try this…. You get free incoming calls in all those countries without charge (if you have a Global roaming plan) and around 70 odd of those (including countries outside of Europe) are completely free usage too with the other 70 being £6 a day which is only charged if you use data or make calls/texts on that day, it isn’t triggered by receiving an incoming call. It uses IPSec over UDP, instead of just ESP. I don’t work for AT&T or any carrier. I’m not sure how much choice the banks have as to what options they’ll use, perhaps their apps can work to serve up the codes but I certainly don’t expect to carry a card reader; I do know SMS has been mentioned so lack of signal for this will create major issues to banking sector. banks, Vodafone’s own account system etc.) Unfortunately it is a telephone technology rather than a computer techology, so it goes over the phone's data, not wifi. WTS 1st Generation iPad 16GB WiFI. God Bless free enterprise! SMS messages are not encrypted, while iMessages are protected with end-to-end encryption . If you use WiFi, there’s no cost, but if you use your cellphone’s data, it’s deducted from your data plan. Best WiFi Texting App to Text over WiFi. It involves contracts with carriers and much more then just technical issues. (Once you’re used to 4G data speeds, it’s hard going back to sluggish 3G data!) For Android you can only limit background data but it will still use mobile data when the app is being used. Vodafone UK promised the feature for mid-2018 and it never came. Vodafone lock this to ‘prefer mobile’ which means if you have an extremely weak signal that can’t actually make a reliable phone call, it will choose that over switching to wifi. Im with Vodafone and use WiFi calling via my BT hub as I live in the sticks. I travel a lot (or at least used to pre-COVID), honestly, no one comes close to Vodafone’s offerings in the international roaming space in the UK. As nowadays people are in WiFi coverage 80% or more of the time, so it seems convenient if there is a chance to text others over WiFi. It turned out that the dns I was using (a vpn provider) was causing the issue. Wifi calling works great on my Umidigi S5 pro , had to turn it on in settings on phone and then go to Voda App and turn it on in there , 5 mins later and a phone restart and it had VoWifi in top bar next to signal meter whenever I lost signal. How does text messaging work? The sure signal was problematic at times (resets from there end) but has been pretty good for the last year. Also yes they only lasted a year or two as they run hot. Shared secret apps like Google Authenticator are so much more secure than just getting sent your 4 or 6 digit code in plain old unencrypted SMS. Yeah EE O2 & Vodafone app restrict VoLTE to pay monthly customers. Tip : You can send texts over Wi-Fi even if you don’t have cell service. But that’s not the only issue. In addition to the breadth of locations covered by Vodafone’s Global Roaming Plus, when I dug deeper I saw more of their roaming agreements include 4G service than their peers. yep. But now you mention it, could Vodafone, EE, O2 see it that way! Been a while since needing to change them! “SMS over WiFi updates for customers’ smartphones have gone live overnight and will roll out progressively over the next seven days. You cannot use SMS delivery reports with Google Fi. It’s possible to send and receive MMS over WiFi on Android if your carrier supports it. On android there should be an option to allow you to ‘prefer wifi’ or ‘prefer mobile’ signal. I changed the dns servers over a week ago and it has not dropped out since. Re: mms over wifi I have a LG G4 with WIFI calling turned on - it will do voice and text SMS, but MMS will not work over the WIFI on that phone - many discussions with support and I was told that it varies from device to device as to whether the MMS will work or not. I don't believe I am attempting to send the message OVER WiFi just when I am CONNECTED to WiFi. If you have an iPhone you can find this under settings and Cellular. Still waiting for Visual Voicemail and eSIM (for iPhone) too…I’m only on Vodafone purely for the expanse of their international roaming offering and Spotify…They really do need to up their game! Wi-fi calling is closely related to 4G calling. I assumed that for continuous connection some sort of ‘keep alive’ communication would be required? In this regard, there is either serious technical incompetence at Vodafone UK if they cannot make this 10+ year old technology work — or someone’s decided to save a few pennies by not licensing it from Apple. I don't want to disconnect Google Voice only to find that I still can't text over WiFi because my phone doesn't get Calling Plus. Another great thing that works over EE (not sure about the others) is even when on Wi-Fi calling with no signal at all on the mobile network, it is still possible to use the options on the phone to set call forwarding or voice mail options, so essentially all functions of the mobile network are available over Wi-Fi. If it won’t, there is something wrong with your phone. Is it possible to send SMS / MMS over wifi if the phone's carrier service is not working? You can not send or receive insecure SMS/MMS with Signal on your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. EE seems to prefer wifi in my experience – on Android I get told I’m on a “wifi call” and it glitches for a second (as it switches over to 4G) if I were to turn the wifi off. One of the reasons I am happy to be a customer with them. Actually when you have wifi calling on and you are in wifi calling mode (VZW Wi-Fi) regular SMS messages and MMS messages will work just like you be connected to cellular tower. However, if you can access the web via WiFi, and you know the email address access to the recipients SMS number (varies with each carrier), you can send an SMS via email from your phone. unless you use a third party, such as twilio to send the messages for you, or unless you are sending messages that are not SMSs, such as whatsapp messages. Hey! Maybe bringing some attention to it will give them a push in the right direction. I still had my old dns settings on my mobile as I had forgotten to change it. The issue is intermittent. As mentioned in a comment twillio is a pretty great way to get at it. There is no way to do SMS over WiFi. Yes but for Vodafone it’s nearly 150. 2FA over SMS gives the feeling of heightened security to the users who likely never had a problem anyway, but if you actually have committed people trying to break into your bank, email, Twitter; 2FA over SMS is about as useful as a wet paper bag. May 23, 2012 1:38 PM Reply Helpful. No idea why. Worked for me using Textra. Until now this wasn’t such a concern, since Vodafone’s customers could just take a Sure Signal device, but the withdrawal of that before Wi-Fi Calling can do SMS is causing concern. It just drops out when it feels like it. Sending pictures or videos over iMessage can use a … I see the ebay leeches are now selling the discontinued SureSignals for as much as £160. And then I have to undo that all again if I go outside. But I wish wifi calling were used more sensibly, to allow the phone to stop sending signals over a mile or more and simply send everything through my router. 3 is supoposed to be better but coverage is poor in the West Country so I don’t want to break down in the car and have no signal. that's not how SMS works. I don’t think PAYG should be less valued. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Mark points out that it is “complex” to enable SMS over WiFi, but you’d think that if EE/BT can do it, one of the world’s largest mobile network operators (if not the largest) might have managed it on their home turf by now. Thanks for the tip. No way they’ve been actively working on it for 2 years it’s been on the back burner. Each Wi-Fi calling enabled device creates a VPN back to the operators servers and maintains that indefinitely, so you can imagine the type of kit required to service thousands and thousands of connections. By using our site, you acknowledge that you have read and understand our Cookie Policy, Privacy Policy, and our Terms of Service. I like many others come onto this site for assistance and to help others. Harder to tell on iOS so not sure what iPhones do, This seems to be more a phone setting (norm not adjustable) I had huge problems trying to get vodafone to give me wifi calling. This got me thinking about my WiFi Calling problem. As for their lack of Visual Voicemail in 2020, this one’s a mystery. Just tried SMS and MMS with airplane mode on with WiFi on. The way they configured it is that the phones will only see their 800mhz VoLTE network is if there is no 4G-data and no 3G network, as it’s designed to fill in the gaps. ... Will Wi-Fi SMS work on BYO devices purchased from other providers that have been switched to Telstra? Three provide VoLTE & VoWiFi to all customers. No. 06-27-2013 10:59 PM. As I find not every router plays nice with WiFi calling so I prefer it not to use it where possible (as you can’t choose where you want it enabled or not). The catch with their WiFi based calling service is that it is dependent upon support existing via your Smartphone, although many modern mobiles now have this. Hi A350. : I believe Wifi-Calling initiates an IPsec connection to the carrier; going through a double-NAT would allow 1 initial connection, and then probably nothing until that first one times out (no longer registers for wifi calling). It's only over the last week or so that I have become aware of missing things - i.e. 3 are the same. Important: It is recommended that you update the application to the latest version. I would love to move to EE believe me with their technologically advanced network, but this keeps me within Vodafone for now. It’s unusable unless you are in a location completely without mobile signal. SMS messages are only sent over cellular networks. I work for Vodafone Customer Relations and I will guarantee you our implementation of WIFI Calling does NOT send SMS over WIFI. Learn how your comment data is processed. Im on three,you dont need a phone bought from three for wifi calling to work. I have an app setup and it is sending and receiving text messages over the phone's data plan, but I want to send text messages over wifi instead. The message sends from your device to your carrier, and then transfers the message on to the intended recipient, viewable on their mobile device. Their answer to me: use a VPN. Want to text for free using WiFi? Does the phone actually say WiFi calling in the top right pull down where it usually says tmobile? You cannot send encrypted SMS messages to another Signal user without having some sort of data connection. Standard SMS messages are limited to 160 characters per message . I suspect the restriction to Pay Monthly is an easy way to restrict the total number of customers that could connect. You may run into such situation when you want to send text messages and only find that there is no service on your iPhone or Android phone. Only EE and Three allow SMS over wifi I believe. Three and EE had to implement voice and SMS over 4G before they could use their 800MHz spectrum, as they don’t have low frequency 2G/3G networks to carry that traffic. SMS is also insecure for 2FA, it’s far too easy to spoof an IMEI and pick up the 2FA code before the customer it’s intended for if you’re trying to break in using their password – and that IS what 2FA is for. I get WiFi calling and SMS, I was with Voda for years but left because it was stupid to pay for coverage that didn’t exist, and the Sure signals were expensive, didn’t cover much of the house, and kept failing, @ Philip. You can ubtick the app and had you don't wish to use mobile data for. Calls to destinations other than Australia over WiFi Calling when roaming overseas are not enabled and will need to be made over the mobile network. Iv got a s7 unlocked from 02, wifi calling worked as soon as i put sim in.plus wifi calling on pay as you go was a big reason for me going with three. And some operators do indeed seem to do just that; not just EE in the UK but my pals in the USA get 2-3x their battery life on wifi calling. 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